I thought I was a Democrat but I was wrong.
Apparently, according to this latest brand of New Religion, I'm actually an
anti-republican. - Victorious Yankee
By the way Krauss payed a fat lady in the audience to laugh really loud, to
help him sound like he's making any sense between all of his stutterings. - Destiny108☆
Atheists think that loving your enemies is evil. Which is why they mock us
Christians. They truly are vile people by their own admission. - Matt Morris
Sorry, have to make another comment on Krauss' shallow stupidity.
Instead of Churches we can have "rock concerts". You have really thought
this through havent you.
Go away, think about what you are actually advoacting for, come up with
some legitimate ideas and then test them. it is not good enough to turn up
- admit humans need a sense of community, spiritualism, morality, etc and
then say "science is great, look at how intelligent I am and how dumb this
guy is, oh and if we need to address this legitimate black hole of human
desire, lets all have a beer and watch Metallica"
Really a poor position from someone whom is advocating for rationalism and
reason.
Nothing more than indifference, intolerance capitalising upon the general
apathy found in the western world to sell a few books.
Try and do something positive, something that goes a bit deeper than
playground name calling and come up with this "alternative".
At least your buddy "Sam Harris" actually verbalises his alternative "Moral
objectivity through well being" although granted the idea is ridiculous. - Chris Clayburn
I’ve noticed that religions are constantly reinventing themselves to
attract more customers…sorry, congregants.
Christianity has how many brands these days?
Religion is exactly the same thing as stuff like Tide laundry detergent.
They are still tinkering with Tide after all these years and they do it for
one reason and one reason only: to gain more customers…sorry congregants. - Victorious Yankee
Jeeze this guy spouting bullshit is an atheist and doesn't even realize it. - MARSHALL DICKSON
peter is essentially talking about cognitive dissonance, just because the
human brain experiences something doesn't always mean that experience is
valid or correct. this historically is where Christianity and natural
philosophy vered away from each other in the 17th century. there is only
so much the human can experience that is testable threw the senses we have
been born with. the experimental method and scientific method uses tools
that are many times less fallible to check our experiences against the
reality. our eexexperience tells us the earth doesn't move and that the sun
rises and moves in the sky not that we move in the sky. we developed the
telescope, a tool that was less falable than ourselves and discovered our
sensory experience was flawed. I get that reigion fills a part of peoples
lives, I was a irish catholic for 17 years, I wanted to believe it more
than anything in the world. I still remember the night I lost my faith and
I was broken for months just like a child is upset when he finds out santa
isn't real, that doesn't have to mean that Christmas is meaningless without
santa and his presents, it just means the reality is different and you find
meaning in being with your family, plus you still get presents and your
parents aren't lying to you which is surely a good thing.... lol like my
tangent? just thought it a good anology - conor smith
Damn, you Atheists are so lost. You guys know nothing about the universe.
Do you really believe the earth is made out of atoms? HAHAHA! DUMB! - Guitar Sidekick
What the hell was this Peter idiot even talking about? His stupid analogies
didn't have anything to do with supporting religion. Lawrence might have
well just debated a broomstick. - b24harman
The universe has not always existed. It had a start...what caused that?
Scientists have no explanation for the sudden explosion of light and
matter. - Ed Woodward
I'd prefer if there wasn't a moderator, it makes it seem like a debate, but
it's not, they are two very interesting intelligent people who aren't in
direct opposition but come from different schools of thought and are
concerned with different topics and problems, what would be better is if
there was no moderator and they just carried a thoughtful conversation. - Samuel Larson
I agree that forcing your religious beliefs [especially hellfire and
brimstone shit] on children is child abuse, BUT so is forcing your idiotic
beliefs that homosexuality is "natural" and "normal" along with the even
worse shit that race-mixing is "good," like they do in schools nowadays --
religion can't even hold a candle to that kind of abuse and mindfuck and
eventual, coming, physical abuse and STD's, etc.
The whole point of procreation is to have children that look like you [in
race-mixing they look like your dark partner]. And really what kind of a
moron wants a world of brown skinned and dark eyed 'people'? Where's the
'diversity' in that? - The Mind of Sorin
Peter Rollins is a great speaker but his analogies are irrelevant. I get it
works on those who don't critically analyze what he says, but I
unfortunately have the time to do that and none of it supports his cause. - NateTheItalianStallion
Holy shit, what the hell is he even talking about? From the moment he
opened his mouth absolutely nothing that made even the slightest semblance
of sense came out in this whole hour. - Simon Kim
The Irish guy is all over the place with all kinds of silly tales and
metaphors.... Think of Batman? Gotham city? What the fuck? I guess it makes
sense to use fictional characters and nonsense tales to validate fiction
and nonsense. - Quagigitymire
as an agnostic, i really liked peter rollins in this debate ! - johnle92
Dangerous Ideas? what the hell - elvis667
Ever notice how the theologians always look prim and proper and the
atheists always look like they should be busy doing something else? - Sloth Rox
Since this Atheism thingy started on Youtube, everyone is fighting each
other with very vulgar and unecessary insults.
Before, On Youtube comment section, everyone was happy and complementing
and encouraging each other and uniting... and just good and warm stuff like
that .... :'( - Destiny108☆
Array - Mark Roberts
Am I the only one who thinks Peter Rollins is saying nothing?
He is contributing nothing to this discussion, he talks of his pop
psychology in an extremely fast speed trying to trick us that what he is
saying is even relevant. That's why Lawrence has a hard time, his opponent
is making no sense! - Shahar Zach
It feels like Peter is putting forward a style of arm-chair good-feeling
psychology. - Bloodtoker
wow, Peter Rollins you beautiful man - Graeme Tulip
The religious guy says alcohol is not a problem but a solution to your
problem, and if you don't get rid of it, you can't get over it. But if I
said religion is a solution to the fear of death or fear of unrectified
injustices throughout the worlds history, I'd automatically be dismissed. - RazaqIshola
Can Krauss ever just shut up for once and let the other person make their
point! He is notorious for interrupting, so rude. - Han Kim
Peter Rollins wrote a new Batman Movie where Batman gives up fighting crime
and sets up a new school and then the Joker takes over NYC & takes over
Batman's school. The Joker gives the kids textbooks where the Joker is good
and Batman is bad. Batman tells the Joker to stop brainwashing the kids and
the Joker says, " Yea well, who's going to make me?" Batman looks into the
sky and says " God, I hope Superman is still fighting crime." - ungertron
After watching the video for 58 minutes, my view of religion and of science
hasn't changed at all. But I now hate Batman. - cheerfulerik
wtf is this irish moron talking about? - george hamilton
It's obvious that Peter Rollins is having a difficult time recovering from
his Irish catholic upbringing. I wish him luck, it doesn't appear that he's
making much progress. - Keith Hull
Hmpf! The moderator is biased. He is obviously pro religion. It's obvious
in his manner, in his attitude with his interaction between the two. He is
obviously friendlier to the religious guy, whoever the hell he is. - Butch Catledge
Intellectually speaking, Rollins is a risible vacuous windbag who won't
deal with the core questions about the validity of the content of religious
belief. Instead he will only comment on religious belief in a psychological
context as a way of facing the world and thereby saves himself the
embarrassment of admitting the unbridgeable disconnect between the content
of religious belief and the real world as it is found to be. A complete cop
out, although no doubt he will be hailed as a genius by Continental
philosophers. - zippidydado
Figures. The Irishman's 'new' religion begins with a pint...
Ironically, this is also the old religion... - Brad Grady
was this a debate or a rambling fest. fuck, I could of heard more sense
going to church. - watchingoveru
Peter is really funny though, seems like a person i can have a lot of
philosophical discussions with, Love them both lol - kiroshima kyoto
I feel that Krauss was out shined in this debate due to the bright and
charismatic speech given by Rollins. If given more time and done out of the
spot light then I think Krauss would probably have been on far more even
footing however I think he felt rushed and ended up saying whatever he
could instead of a constructive and well thought out response to Rollins'
argument. - SerNotSoBraveAlot of the Scared Easily Guild
It's debates like this that really make me miss Christoper Hitchens. - meteda1070
Bruce Wayne has done all these things you mention Peter. After school
programs and getting people jobs and such but I'm guessing you don't
research and just are talking about the movies. I'm not saying Batman's
perfect but that it was a bad example that he used. - NastyeeTalk
This new religion guy is a moron! Krauss not only said rock concerts....he
is saying that people shouldn't need religion to come together. Be yourself
and come together for other "Real" loves, likes, interests, etc. - NICHOLAS CLARK
"Don't be afraid of being wrong." That's a big ask, it goes against human
nature. But I'd take that a step further, don't be afraid of not knowing,
not understanding. People tend to be uncomfortable with the unknown,
Religion has always been a catch-all for that huge sphere of things man did
not understand. we would just label it as "God's work". Over time that
sphere has been whittled down to the point where now only the most
fundamental of questions remained unexplained by science, and even those
are now starting to be answered and religion is being marginalized in many
parts of the world. I think Rollins has a point, we need people like him to
get from here to where atheists want the human race to go. Ridicule as your
only tactic is not the best strategy.. - Lee C
Another lazy, indifferent response from another arrogant New atheist.
What is going on here!? the person advocating against religion/for science
has an argument that never uses evidence and whose intellectual rebuttals
go as deep as "scoffing" at his opponent, smirking to get a giggle from the
audience (whom feel superior in their collective ridiculing of an argument
they fail to address on its base terms).
As an agnostic and a scientist , I find Peter Rollins a breath of fresh air
and his thoughts are much better constructed than Lawrence Krauss, who was
unable to respond directly to Rollins' assertions and philosophy.
This more than ever highlights new atheism as a dogma, unwilling to use the
same stringent values it is advocating for. Atheism is not a movement or
should not be.
These guys spend far too much time focusing on extremes of religion to
further an intolerant agenda of all religion. - Chris Clayburn
Bill Maher said it best, atheism is a religion like abstinence is a sex
position - Alex Silcock
lawrence nailed it - Dhiraj kafle
Everything Krauss says seems to make complete and utter sense and
everything the irish guy says seem to be complete and utter non sense. - Clinton Eastwood
Im sorry but in over 50 debates i have watched PETER ROLLINS is a crack
pot
he makes no sense at all, i have watched this twice to try and understand
what the hell he is talking about and to no avail he actually sounds
like there is something wrong with him . and anyone who says he makes
sense is clearly insane ! sad to see how many stupid people are still
around - brann73
peter rollins talks like a troll trying to derail a conversation... he
always disagrees but never really voices his own opinion. - Mycel
Some folks apparently have a very hard time accepting the reality that many
people just don't feel a need for religion. In a nation that upholds
freedom of and from religion, this is a fundamental liberty, and all I can
say is, "please try and get over it," because, quite frankly, we don't care
that much what you think. That's your business. - David Studhalter
Good grief where did they find this psuedo intellectual shonk! Krauss
decimated this fool. - Groove Q