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ideas - Is Pop Music Holding You Hostage? | Idea Channel | PBS Digital Studios



Is Pop Music Holding You Hostage? | Idea Channel | PBS Digital Studios


Discussion and opinion

  • Pop music gains meaning because everyone's an idiot? - tspirit99
  • So, let me get this straight. The Beatles, Fleetwood Mac, Michael Jackson, etc. made a lot of pop music. Was their music really bad but loved purely because of how it was packaged and sold? Because it was well packaged and marketed. Do people still love the music these singers made simply because they heard it do damn much? Or did they make legitimately good music despite the fact it was aimed at the mainstream? There's often a tendency to say music is bad simply because it's modern but some of today's pop acts will be classic artists down the road and everyone will be singing their praises. Part of the reason is because a lot of the mediocre and bad popular music from the past is forgotten and the better music stands the test of time. So, people imagine music was better in the past when it really wasn't and dismiss all modern music just because it's modern. Listen to a replay of Casey Kasem's old countdowns and you'll hear how bad a lot of older music really was. - Emma Ah
  • I do not listen to the radio AT ALL because I select the music I listen to. Radio is for the masses of sheep. - accousticdecay
  • Smart people do not know how to filter what they listen... Real music involves science deeper, much deeper than modern songs. Take for example Pink Floyd. Their songs are a pleasant mixture of science (of the music) and philosophy (lyrics). Don't believe me? Google it up. - PhiloxephusTV
  • I cannot listen to pop music. In the car, I go straight to Pandora and decide between really old "rap" music (Sugarhill gang), classical (like mozard, vivaldi, even beethoven or bach), death metal (chop suey, avenged sevenfold), comedy (bo burnham mostly), classic rock (queen, beatles), etc (scissor sisters, lilly allen). I am often with my friends and they put on pop music and it just drains life from me. It's always the same song but different words. There's always the same chord progressions and synthetic percussion... it's really sad. I love all of these other genres because they're just more interesting. Also, this: You're not an artist if you make millions of dollars by performing songs that people wrote just for you to perform. Justin Bieber is an example of this. - waawamellon
  • I personally do not listen to the radio, so I don't listen to pop music. I'm the kind of person who doesn't know why everyone is singing that song in the car. I like to select my music and listen to what I like, but it takes time. Most people don't pay attention, they listen to music in their car, it sounds good, they like it. Not everyone wants to put time and efforts into picking music, like not everyone wants to put time into gardening, fixing cars or reading books. I'd rather pick my music than play golf, but I'm pretty certain others would choose golf. Is it a bad thing? Meh. As long as people are happy. There is no "bad music", there is what you like and what you don't like. Some people like the complexity of jazz and others just want dubstep. Of course, you can decide not to buy into the industry and look for real artists, but we're back at the "efforts and time" argument. - Eden Zak
  • I was telling a music therapist I tried this, and he thought I was crazy... This is so obvious to so many people, and I cannot go to a store in my neighborhood by being inflicted pop music on me...eyeroll...thank you for vindicating my sanity.... - Kristina Johnson
  • To me people who listen to pop just doesnt have a defined music taste( they dont know what to listen) - HankieDude17
  • The thing that people don't understand is that what differenciates "pop music" from real music is that "pop" is made for the big money. Real artists actually have passion and their pieces aren't there for ANYTHING excepting being there. Sure, real artists want a bit of money so they can live on and make some more music without being thrown out of their appartment, but a true artist's goal is not being rich. Pop "artist" : Making money and becoming popular in a short amount of time Real artist : Creating pieces that will last throughout the ages Pop "piece" : There to surrender people to give money to being entertained. Real art : There for no reason other than being there and being what it is. - Rokusan Sangen
  • The radio is a horrible torture device and I know a lot of people who like it. They even voluntarily play pop music. I can understand liking a song that I do not like, but any song played every day becomes horrible torture. - jas16899
  • Don't like it? Don't listen, stupid. - Tatiana Covington
  • Pop music is like a clear pound. How you reflect off of it says volumes more about you than about the song itself. I thinks thats the beauty of it: Doesn't have to have some clear overinflated objective mission or meaning. Its allows for a depth of subjectivity in it's "shallowness."  - Chris Mowry
  • i don't like pop music nevermind the media i only hear a wide range of music when it comes to video games - adamhouse9999
  • Pop music is shit. Everything they make nowadays are remix`s of older songs. Just overall decline in quality. "Musicians today seem to be less adventurous in moving from one chord or note to another, instead following the paths well-trod by their predecessors and contemporaries." - Dashed
  • Can't get away from it? I don't even know half the "artists" he mentioned. Lord? I'm literally ignorant of who that is. Just think for yourself and make your own decisions. You can't be lazy in your quest for music because you will never discover the hundreds of thousands of groups the mainstream media is pretending do not exist. What you put in, you get out. Spend the time and effort to find artists like Yossi Sassi and Cynic and Opeth and Samsara Blues Experiment and whoever else you might enjoy, and you will understand immediately that you have been wasting a portion of your life up to that point.  - racewiththefalcons1
  • AH that's your problem. Stop listening to the radio. Build your own music collection and put it on shuffle when you're in the car or make a Pandora station with artists you actually like. There is no reason to listen to music other people want you to listen to aka the radio. I gave up the radio a looooooong time ago. - Savanah Mick
  • we have all turned into the generation we all fear we will be come wait what? - KingBash
  • I wholeheartedly agree with this. I'm someone who mainly listens to heavy metal, and hates pop music... ... but after hearing a song so many times, I eventually like it. - Kelsie LeCrone
  • Subscribed because I like the way you apply logical thinking, science and psychology to the table. However, this could hardly be news to anyone who is remotely aware of their surroundings and the society they live in... or could it? We are lazy and we want others to pick what to like for us, the market creates people that are willing to exploit this. We are also lazy about other things... like how we use the web. We want everything to be in one place, but we are not willing to think of the power we give those who manage these all-engulfing systems. - z0uLess
  • I don't know what anybody sees in Roar, but I don't blame or hold it against people who like it. Sadly, I was led to this video by an extremely condescending article that identified particular songs as objectively bad. Just use Pandora. If you don't like the song, down goes the thumb and you never have to hear it again. - cyanmanta
  • Shine bright like a diamond! - eddie947
  • How modern music works. - Nando Pena
  • I don't listen to radio. - Saus
  • Pop music has very little meaningful qualities, unless written for some charitable cause. It all ends up sounding practically the same, with Auto Tune and totally synthesized instrumentation all par for the course. That's why I've abandoned it. - Kendra Dehnert
  • Pop music is artless wank. There, I said it. You can all fling the word Hipster at me like feces now. - Hittler Did Nothing Wrong
  • you mean to say that things only become hits because record execs pay for them to be? therefor anyone and everyone who likes blurred lines is a fucking sheep? thanks for giving me another reason not to listen to modern pop. - JR Gracie
  • When I go on my bus to school this one station plays the same songs about 4 every day. My bus driver won't change it and it is blasting loud and he wont turn it down so I cant do anything about it. I started to feel like my school and the radio station was trying to brainwash me to like popular music and I felt I was the only one In my school who wasn't going crazy over pop music or buying any merchandise.  - BenThePadlin
  • as an anime fan, it the same with anime songs. after you hear one picee 3ed opining for 20 times you will love it - Almozayaf Roman
  • Its pretty easy to turn off a radio and TV. I don't listen to any of this 'slave' music lol - Ben Dol
  • That's why vgms are superior, lmao! Jk! Game music is awesome, but to each their own! - Onij Jokuma
  • There are certainly pop songs which are popular because of how inherently catchy they are, not necessarily just based on constant exposure, though that plays an important role too, serving to magnify the popularity. Certainly there are songs which would not be popular under any circumstances. This 'stockholm syndrom'-like effect reminds me of the well known musical concept of accessibility. The effect ubiquity plays largely depends on how accessible, or readily liked, the music is. The most accessible songs are magnified the most by constant exposure, while others less so. I have a question, though, regarding music appreciation: Do we like a song that we are constantly exposed to because we are noticing elements of songs that we may have missed on the first few listens? For example, I used to hate a lot of rap music, but when I gave it a chance I found that it was not necessarily the beat or even the lyrical content that I liked, but things as subtle as the assonance and stucture. I also started liking the song before I recognized the reasons I liked it. I make this distinction because people on the radio might only understand "yes, I like it" or "no, I don't." So is it that we are liking it because constant exposure and recognition makes us like it, or is it because we are beginning to appreciate the song on a different level? Do certain songs, which we would classify as more accessible, contain more elements which are appreciable, and would that not make them better (though not easy to recognize as good at face value)? I would assume we will like most anything more by exposure, as the video contends, but the capacity of the song to be well liked is heavily influenced by the components which we can begin to appreciate after several listens. I would imagine that is one of the defining qualities of a good pop song. And once more, to reiterate, you do not have to even recognize exactly what you like about it: it can be subconscious. - akipina
  • This explains why I dont care for pop music. I dont listen to the radio, or look for pop music online, or really even go out much... - Andrew Sheneman
  • Only Micheal Jackson is the pop music/artist I hear, despise pop music & many other mainstream shite. But then again, I do see myself a music, well a Metal elitist with few other genre tastes. The only radio station I hear is the Classical station which is KUSC. - TriforceOfTheGods80
  • Mormons are fascists - Tony N
  • Yeap! This pretty much sums it up... - Branko Šabarić
  • Hmm... I instantly liked Dark Horse, Blurred Lines and I Got a Feeling... But Fancy and Problem took me a while. - YouCantScareME
  • I can only listen to pop music on the radio, because if i were to actually pay attention to it, i'd realize it's pretty basic. - stickdrawer360
  • 8:32 omg i lost it. - Yoshi SF
  • WHY DOES THIS GUY SOUND LIKE CGP GREY???????? - renaebm1
  • I know that the Hit Song Science application and other variations of it (Mixcloud, MusicXray, and BandMetrics) have bee used by the Music Business for years. These apps are used to predict success based on algorithms (also why a lot of pop music these days sounds the same or is highly derivative of older, successful artists). - reavertor
  • you missed the most important part of the equation - market domination by only a few companies that own radio stations, cable conglomerates, movie and TV studios, theme parks and burger joints. the music is the produt, and they can slot it in, everywhere. - Alison Johns
  • Holy shit, why does he speak exactly like guy from Vsauce? Like it extremely bothers me.  - Brandon Morris
  • It's true. The radio beats you into submission regarding their monthly selection of 5 songs deemed worthy of all the air time. If only I weren't too lazy to make cds for my commute.  - Fiy Ade
  • What is the difference between music that is meaningful because its musical and music that is meaningful because it is popular when they both create the same feeling although are derived differently. Meaning... What is the significance of this? I take it the real point is in how one would feel knowing that what they liked is liked because others want them to like it and not because one would inherently like it. What the masses suggest is that they don't care why or how they feel what they feel only that they just do. Maybe that is the source of all global issues? Maybe?  - George Erfesoglou
  • Sir, you need to calm down your video. You are trying to squeeze waaaaaaaaayy too much into it. Calm. It. Down. Calmitdown.  - A.J. The Shifter
  • Not a decaf zip = not on my phone. - casemods
  • mmmmk do dis guy ave a rat tail/ponytail ting goin on in da back or sumting? - mmmgorgeous
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